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#112441 - 09/19/03 05:36 PM Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times !
AlrikFassbauer Offline
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Hello, everyone.

You can read the article here :
http://gamespy.com/articles/september03/25overrated

It's interesting, but I haven't read all of the nominees yet.


Alrik.

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#112442 - 09/19/03 06:40 PM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: AlrikFassbauer]
joliekiller Offline
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I know that one.
For the more 'lazy' ones among us, heres the complete list
Als antwoord op:


25. Neverwinter Nights
24. Super Mario Sunshine
23. Battle Arena Toshinden
22. Starfleet Command Series
21. Morrowind
20. Impossible Creatures
19. Battlecruiser 3000AD
18. American McGee's Alice
17. The Getaway
16. Mortal Kombat
15. Dungeon Siege
14. Dead or Alive 3
13. Battletoads
12. Unreal II: The Awakening
11. Pools of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor
10. Halo
9. Donkey Kong Country
8. Lara Croft: Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness
7. Final Fantasy VII
6. Blinx: The Time Sweeper
5. Quake II
4. Daikatana
3. Enter The Matrix
2. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
1. Black & White





I can agree with some of them
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#112443 - 09/19/03 07:47 PM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: joliekiller]
HandEFood Offline
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Of the games I know there, I can agree, except for American McGee's Alice! That game was worth it for the atmosphere alone and is one of the few I've replayed.

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#112444 - 09/19/03 10:03 PM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: HandEFood]
DEATHATTHEDOOR Offline
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Can agree with most of them. Especially NWN and Morrowind
I would've added Freelancer to the list though.

I read the first few 3 days ago (the list was incomplete) and though FL will be in the list...

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#112445 - 09/20/03 04:56 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: DEATHATTHEDOOR]
Draghermosran Offline
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Black & white isn't overated... It's just something that has as much poeple who think it's brilliant as poeple who thinj it's utter crap...
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#112446 - 09/20/03 05:18 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: joliekiller]
Kejero Offline
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Of the games I know there, I can agree, except for American McGee's Alice! That game was worth it for the atmosphere alone and is one of the few I've replayed.



What I noticed about Alice is how the quality of level design and originality decreases a lot halfway the game, as if they got tired of it, or - more likely - had to rush it. The beginning levels are very promising, but near the end it's all more of the same... there's less interaction with other characters as well in the later levels, less "sub quests", and even the design of the environment seems less inspired... But the atmosphere indeed does a lot, definitely not in spite of Chris Vrenna's creepy score

I was a little surprised to see the SNES Donkey Kong Country in that list... But it's an "overrated" list, and maybe in its days, DKC was indeed a little overhyped. The comments in that article about the groundbreaking graphics make sense (although IMO they still are among the nicest all time SNES graphics)... But I'm a fan of the DKC series, not because of any hype (never knew it was hyped until I read this article ), but because of reasons of which none are mentioned in the article. I have to admit that the quality of the first DKC is a lot less than its two SNES sequels though, but they only mention DKC2 and 3 as if those we're mere copies from DKC ... What make these games so great and different from most other platformers to me, are the very well balanced game design, the levels (designs, themes...) of which none are like another in the game (except in the orginal DKC), the controls, the characters (both goodies and baddies) (not so much in the first DKC though), the great music, the overall perfect timing... I used to be a fan of the (first) Super Mario games as well, but the quality of Donkey Kong exceeds those games by... eh gallons (not speaking of any Mario games higher tha the SNES platform, and definitely not of the Wario series, which is also grrreat!)
Oh well, I fell in love with these apes as a kid and I still like them, not out of pure nostalgy, and definitely not because they were hyped... How dare they, those poor monkeys
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#112447 - 09/20/03 06:26 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: Kejero]
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FF VII was cool
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#112448 - 09/20/03 09:06 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: jvb]
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Halo was cool 2, B&W was... overrated indeed
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#112449 - 09/20/03 09:21 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: Viper]
DEATHATTHEDOOR Offline
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Halo was cool 2, B&W was... overrated indeed



Don't mistake "Gamespy's 25 worst games of all times" and "Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times". If NWN or Black and White or Alice or... is in the list it DOES NOT mean it is a bad game, ok? It means that it was overhyped.
Black and White WAS overhyped. Look at all the cover stories written about it.
And look at the number of B&W players today.
NWN WAS over hyped (check the box: "the only game you'll ever need... the game which will change everything...")
Halo WAS overhyped: it was "the game" and PC Mags cried when they learned that it will be 'Xbox Xclusive' but look at it now: it's far from being the most original game.

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#112450 - 09/20/03 10:05 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: DEATHATTHEDOOR]
Draghermosran Offline
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Overated is not the same as overhyped...
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#112451 - 09/20/03 10:31 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: Draghermosran]
Myrthos Offline
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I agree to that. Overrated implies it got scores that were way to high. This is a list of overhyped games. But I assume Gamespy considered overhyped to have too many negative implications.
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#112452 - 09/20/03 11:24 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: AlrikFassbauer]
Muskrat Offline
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FF VII should have been #1 on the over rated list


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#112453 - 09/20/03 11:58 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: Myrthos]
DEATHATTHEDOOR Offline
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I agree to that. Overrated implies it got scores that were way to high. This is a list of overhyped games. But I assume Gamespy considered overhyped to have too many negative implications.



Oh, my bad. See what hunger makes with a person?

Why is FF7 overrated? 85% average is not too much, imho: DD got 83% average and I consider it underrated (because of some lame sites).

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#112454 - 09/21/03 03:26 PM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: DEATHATTHEDOOR]
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isn't every game overhyped?
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#112455 - 09/21/03 07:01 PM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: jvb]
Draghermosran Offline
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DD was not...
overhyped: Unreal II -> everyone previewed it very good, everyone knew about it, wasn't as good as tought
underhyped: Divine Devotion -> it hasn't got many previews, turns out be a very good game.

Rifrunner on the otherhand is hyped.
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#112456 - 09/22/03 02:59 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: Draghermosran]
Myrthos Offline
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underhyped: Divine Devotion -> it hasn't got many previews, turns out be a very good game.



Divine Devotion?

Quote:

Rifrunner on the otherhand is hyped.



Well there are several interviews out and there are plenty more to come (so I've been told) and there is one short weekly feature on RPGVault.
I don't consider Riftrunner to be hyped yet. It needs a lot more attention than what it has now to be considered hyped.
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#112457 - 09/22/03 03:06 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: Draghermosran]
Kejero Offline
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underhyped: Divine Devotion -> it hasn't got many previews, turns out be a very good game.

Rifrunner on the otherhand is hyped.




Shouldn't you be in bed at 2 a.m.? I mean, "Divine devotion" a good game...?
[edit]Myrthos, stay away from my joke!! [/edit]

And about "Rifrunner": there's still a difference between hype and attention...
[edit2]Ok Myrthos, stop reading my mind [/edit2]


Edited by Kejero (09/22/03 03:15 AM)
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#112458 - 09/22/03 04:19 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: Kejero]
Myrthos Offline
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[edit2]Ok Myrthos, stop reading my mind [/edit2]



I can't help it. My insane powers make me do that.
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#112459 - 09/22/03 05:08 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times ! [Re: Myrthos]
the_bean Offline
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Als antwoord op:

My insane powers make me do that.



NOW, aren't those powers a little bit overhyped?
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#112460 - 09/22/03 05:14 AM Re: Gamespy's 25 most overrated Games of All Times [Re: the_bean]
janggut Offline
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no they're not. they're overrated.
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