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#247538 - 06/11/04 08:17 PM For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick)
KORDOBA Offline




Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 4
Read at your own risk.
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Well Just for fun I decided to see if you could duplicate items the same way in BD as you could in DD and you can.
Basically this is a simple inventory file swap.

How to do it: Throw everthing on the ground that you want a duplicate of, save the game as "I am a cheating bastid" or something of the like. Exit the game and go to your savegame folder for BD. Go to your last saved game where your inventory is all still intact and copy the 6 inv files to your "I am a cheating bastid" save game folder. Now when you load your bastid game everything you threw on the ground will be in your inventory as well as on the ground.

Things I have noted so far:
The gem bag if you have a bunch of duplicates they all stack and you can have major resistance.

I was hoping that if I had 3 or 4 duplicate summoning dolls that you could call 3 or 4 of them up at once. Didn't happen. If you were inclined though you could have a duplicate set in your other PC's inventory and either of them can call em up.

I also tried copying Dollinfo from the savegame directory to an old old saved game to see if it would alter the summoning dolls in the old game but nothing happened there either.

I tried copying a data file over to a dif save game as well and got a fantastic blue screen when I started up BD, I just deleted the save and all was good again.

If anyone else decides to do some experimenting I would like to see your results. But don't have your characters come running and crying to me if you accidently delete there legs and eyes and ruin your save games. Always practice on duplicate saves.
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#247539 - 06/15/04 01:26 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: KORDOBA]
DeltaWolf Offline
Warrior



Registered: 08/07/03
Posts: 118
Loc: Far far away
Did you try to play after you had duplicated items ?
Dit you experiance any problems?

I've duplicated items, and continued to play, with one of the quest there is a cut scene, but after that the game does not return to notmal, it stays in the cut scene mode.
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#247540 - 06/15/04 02:07 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: DeltaWolf]
Viper Offline
Prophet of Doom



Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 6128
Loc: Belgium
I don't think your problem is related to the cheating though. getting stuck in those scenes apparentely happens more than once, so reload and try again
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#247541 - 06/15/04 09:55 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: KORDOBA]
everyman420 Offline
Warrior



Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 354
Loc: McCleary, WA, USA
the gem bags you copied are all the same bag. basically if you change the gems in one bag you change them in all of them. if you drop the bag onto a summoning doll, you will be able to "duplicate" the gems in the bag once per duplicate bag. basically, remove the gems in the bag on the doll then the ones in your inventory. this can only be done once and is a result of the redundancy of the bag. however the pay close attention to when you pick up the bag and move it as you will lose the entire bonus (original and duplicate bag). if you take one gem bag out of inventory, then you'll have to move the other one to return the bonuses to normal. all in all its really more problematic that its worth. once you have extra gems, just duplicate the gems.

gold can be duplicated easily without any ill effects. enjoy unlearning skills and learning all those skills options up to the max level given in the battlefields.

holy water, if you have any, this is an absolute essential to duplicate. i happened to have one in a save game, added it to another i had, and from there, went nuts. i've now used 12 holy waters so far to make permanent potions, leaving about 3 to duplicate later.

the charms also duplicate easily with no problem. these are by far the best duplicatable gold mine aside from duplicating piles of 50,000 gold.

the crystals will duplicate with no problem, but be aware of weight issues. another gold mine.

of course in the case of the crystals and the charms, you'll find yourself holding onto them for a long while, so be prepared to start a treasure hoard, as if you were a dragon.

DO NOT duplicate the battlefield keys from one act and move them elsewhere, in fact just leave them alone alltogether. messing with them WILL break your quest log.

alchemy plants are also duplicatable without ill effects but again pay attention to weight. if you've been holding on to them as long as i have, you only need to do this once.

duplicating the pyramids into acts where they aren't supposed to be turns them into ancient pyramids rather than teleporting pyramid, and they don't work.

some of the left over quest items that don't get erased will duplicate seemingly with no ill effects, if you feel like hanging onto fluff and trappings for the battlefields act so as to add colour and flavor to your temple "prison" (i'm assuming that is what it is considering that you cannot reach Rivellon at the moment).

enjoy.
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#247542 - 01/19/06 04:39 PM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: KORDOBA]
rvale Offline
Mercenary



Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 16
when u say go to the folder [what folder are you talking about] im new at this please help
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#247543 - 01/19/06 05:02 PM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: rvale]
Raze Offline
Angel



Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 13323
Loc: Canada
Each save is a separate subfolder in the '..\Beyond Divinity\savegames' folder. For the file swap procedure, you need to browse there in Windows Explorer and look for the folder name corresponding to the save you want to try this in. You should save under a new name first, or make a copy of your latest save, just in case.
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#247544 - 01/19/06 09:16 PM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: KORDOBA]
rvale Offline
Mercenary



Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 16
well when i open the save game file it fills the whole page so how am i suppose to move the inv's to the other save game with out the stuff if i cant see the save game file with the stuff on it???
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#247545 - 01/25/06 08:18 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: KORDOBA]
rvale Offline
Mercenary



Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 16
i ran into a problem with this cheating thing.
i went to my files an there are alot of files. there also no file that savedgames uless i open another folder. am i suppose to do that??
well say i am an i did the problem is that when i found the savegames folder in there its fills the whole page an i cant move the inv. to the saved game ..
how do i do that?????
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#247546 - 01/25/06 09:04 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Tr [Re: rvale]
Lady_Rain Offline
Elder Druid



Registered: 04/20/04
Posts: 1735
Loc: GP - Gansters' Paradise
If you click on VIEW (in your folder) and select LIST, the files will appear smaller, so that they dont fill the whole screen any more.
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#247547 - 01/25/06 11:41 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: rvale]
rvale Offline
Mercenary



Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 16
i did do that an it made the words smaller but it still dosent show the other folders to put the inv. in it what can i do now?? this something i really want to do so can you please bare with me ??

Edited by rvale (01/25/06 11:43 AM)
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#247548 - 01/25/06 12:31 PM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: rvale]
Raze Offline
Angel



Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 13323
Loc: Canada
i went to my files an there are alot of files. there also no file that savedgames uless i open another folder. am i suppose to do that??

Yes, that is correct. Each save is a separate subfolder in the '..\Beyond Divinity\savegames' folder. In addition to the 5 'bd_act#_start' folders which are created/updated by the game/patch, you should see folder names corresponding to each save that you have made. For example, there could be folders named 'start of game', 'after killing 1st guard', 'before entering tunnel', etc.

Personally, I prefer having Windows Explorer in 'details' view for file management purposes. Make sure the folder pane is enabled (not sure if that is the default in Windows XP) so you have the list of save game folders on the left side of the Explorer window, and when you select a folder, its contents are displayed in the right side of Explorer. This setup makes it easy to scroll up or down in either the folder or file list and drag-and-drop to move files around (hold the control key down before dropping to copy).
You can use the menu option 'File | New | Folder' or the hotkey Alt-F-N-F to create a folder (ie to move the original inventory files to); either or both of those folder creation methods may be slightly different in Windows XP.
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#247549 - 01/25/06 01:52 PM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: rvale]
rvale Offline
Mercenary



Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 16
I DID IT IM SO HAPPY THANK YOU SO SO MUCH.
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#247550 - 02/15/06 07:22 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: Raze]
truthseeker19 Offline




Registered: 02/04/06
Posts: 3
HELP!! I tried the Duplication Procedure and followed it exactly. I saved a game, then dropped the gold I wanted to duplicate on the ground and saved the second game. Then, I went into windows explorer, copied the six inventory files from game one and pasted them into game two. When I reloaded BD - the gold was duplicated but I had NO MAPS - Both the mini-map and big map were gone. The little blue character squares were there on both but the rest was black. I then went back to an earlier saved game, saw that the maps were intact and tried the whole thing again with the same results. I am playing version 1.47 and wonder if the 1.47 patch did something to the ability to duplicate? Is there any way around this? Should I not have copied and pasted? Is there a different way to move the files? Any help would be deeply appreciated>
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#247551 - 02/15/06 03:15 PM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: truthseeker19]
Raze Offline
Angel



Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 13323
Loc: Canada
There should not be any problems duplicating gold in the 1.47 patch. I just tried it successfully, and nobody has reported a similar problem (that I recall) using basically this same procedure to replace lost quest items (Inventory files).

Are you sure you are just copying the 6 inv.* files? Try going into the second game folder and deleting or moving these files first, so no files should be overwritten copying files from the first save.

There should not be any difference between copy-and-pasting and drag-and-dropping files, though you do get a little more feedback with the latter. If you are using hotkeys to copy and paste, a mistyped copy attempt might have you pasting the wrong files, though that probably wouldn't happen twice, and probably not at all if you are using toolbar icons or the right click context menu to copy and paste.


There is a different cheat for gold, though more technical. I have not tried this since the 1.47 patch, so there may have been changes made to the file structure (though if so, they would probably be minor).
Hex editing - gold, experience, stat/skill points


Welcome to the forum.

BTW, if you edit your other post, there is a 'delete this post' button beside the 'change this post' button, which will also remove the topic, as long as nobody replies to it (your post count will not drop, though).
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#247552 - 02/16/06 09:56 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: Raze]
truthseeker19 Offline




Registered: 02/04/06
Posts: 3
Thank you, Raze, for your help. As it turns out, the problem was that I was trying to do the duplication while in the Battlefields. When I returned to the main game everything worked perfectly. I don't know why this should be the case but apparently it is. Again, thank you for your help.
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#394810 - 12/07/09 12:36 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: truthseeker19]
tabby Offline




Registered: 12/06/09
Posts: 4
Hi, i try to duplicate items, but i can't..why? tried to save as "i am a cheater" and see my save games folder but there's none. only BD#5 or something like that, why is it? i can't found save game "i am a cheater" in my save game folder, can you tell me what's wrong with it? oh bytheway, i am using windows 7, is because the windows or isn't? thx ^_^
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#394813 - 12/07/09 02:18 AM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: tabby]
Raze Offline
Angel



Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 13323
Loc: Canada

Under Vista / 7, depending on how the user accounts are set up, if you install the game to the default Program Files path, Windows can create separate savegame folders for each user, and then map that folder to the game's savegame folder (so it will just see the saves for the relevant user).
The 5 'bd_act#_start' folders are used by the game for initial data for each act.


Rather than the '..\Beyond Divinity\savegames' folder, check:

C:\Users\ %account name% \AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Larian Studios\Beyond Divinity\savegames


Welcome to the forum.
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#395051 - 12/08/09 09:44 PM Re: For you cheaters out there (The Duplication Trick) [Re: Raze]
tabby Offline




Registered: 12/06/09
Posts: 4
THANKKKK YOUUUUU...U SAVEE MY DAYYYYY \:\)
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