#311957 - 07/17/05 04:21 AM
Re: "Men are animals"
[Re: Virgo_Bluefire]
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lol...
as man I can declare I am no dildo but I am an animal, a mamal even. I have ape-like behaviour I like hanging on branches.
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#311958 - 07/17/05 05:28 AM
Re: "Men are animals"
[Re: LaFille]
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Svar till:
I don't like prostitution, porn, etc. and do not want my man to use that either. But if a man gets sex of a fully willing prostitute, and that he doesn't do wrong to anyone by doing it, although it disgusts me who am I to state it is wrong?
It is not the majority of cases that are like that, but there are. On the rest of the cases, it IS something wrong; but we have to be careful with stereotypes.
That's what I've been trying to say all along (maybe aoart from the 'I don't like it' part, even though I don't like it). If I'd tried it well is another thing to discus, though doing soseems unescesary  .
And non-industrial countries (or maybe we should just talk about poor countries. Or even better, undeveloped countries) have many problems, not only their view of women.
And Dragh, you pointed out what made my perfect reply perfect  .
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#311962 - 07/17/05 12:58 PM
Re: "Men are animals"
[Re: Barta]
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I still suspect that the reason for rapeing women is in some cases to get sex easilly. If they can go to a prostitute instead, they do so. This means that more prostitutes=>less rapes. The men that rapes women because they like to dominate their sexuall partners would still rape women though, but these men will allways rape women, no matter what. One of the injustices in at least the Swedish society (if not the rest of the world) is the way we handle cases of rape. Here the women gets questioned about several (not very related) questions, like: was she drunk (then it's not rape, it's sexuall misuse, shorter penalty, principally right prehaps, but morally?), what was she wearing (if she was wearing sexy clothes, you can't blasme the man for rapeing her), what's her reputation (ok, this is plane weird) and several other not very related questiones. The questions should be: was she raped? If she was: penalty. If she wasn't: no penalty. As simple as that. Note that the tones are completelly different if it is a man that is the victim. Svar till:
Animals have sex only for procreation and only during the period of procreation.
They don't force a female who do not want to have sex with them.
They don't have sex with other species.
Sex is still an animal instinkt. And humans doesn't work like other animals in this way, because we have sex for fun and not only for procreation. We're build that way, and the only way to change that is to manipulate our genes. And when it comes to forceing sex, then most men don't do this (I think). It's not very common (it's not like every second man beats his wife, one out of five has ever raped a women etc). It happens though, and I think it's not the societys view on sex that is the problem, it's the man himself, and his view on sex. And we've allready come to the conclution that there are idiots everywere.
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#311964 - 07/17/05 01:29 PM
Re: "Men are animals"
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I said some cases . Svar till:
Rapists are also men that like a woman that struggles against it. They get turned on by it, by their screams, the fear in their eyes, stuff like that. But it's almost never because of wanting just sex.
These pepole are pretty unhelpable too. They will rape women no matter if the risk penalty (of any kind) or not. Same thing goes for the serial killers (but these aren't the ordinary person, these are psycos, and can't be judged as ordinary pepole, they're just to be locked away from ordinary pepole).
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#311966 - 07/17/05 02:07 PM
Re: "Men are animals"
[Re: Barta]
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I think it is not possible for a normal man to understand the reason for rape woman.
For me, this is complete not understandable. At last maybe we are animals, but we have more than only mind/brain and hormones. We have emotions, and (by the most people) these emotions are very strong. We dont want to hurt the other, we dont want to rape them.
Only the thinkig to do something like raping/violence to a woman make me sick, becouse i have emotions and i know that the woman has emotions too.
Thats the same reason i dont go to prostitutes, there are no feeling by the woman for me. And i know that i can`t satisfy these woman.
So for what is it good, apart from throwing the money out of a window?
I cant understand these people, but i know that they are really sick (not these who are going to prostitutes, i think they are maybe fell alone for to long, or have other problems at home i dont know). But i dont have pity with them, only with the Victims.
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#311967 - 07/17/05 02:12 PM
Re: "Men are animals"
[Re: Stone]
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It's simple it turns those ppl on, they like power over women. It's a sick and evil fetisj.
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#311970 - 07/17/05 08:44 PM
Re: "Men are animals"
[Re: Morbo]
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Well I am proud to be an animal
Party animal to be precise 
Count me in too.....  Good one Morbo! 
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#311973 - 07/18/05 10:46 AM
Re: "Men are animals"
[Re: Barta]
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@Gal Yes! I was talking about Zana Mushen's story.  Read both hers & her sister's story, but I was a while ago... Quote:
Animals have sex only for procreation and only during the period of procreation.
There are exceptions; dolphins have sex for pleasure and bonobos have sex to release the tensions, for example. ( @Stone)
But it's true that they don't force females who don't want to have sex. They don't beat them nor fight with them either, even in response to a female's very nasty blow.
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