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well, I was thinking, Divinity 2 is such an amazing game, but it lacks realistic blood and gore, the fact that there are no Gibs it makes the killing a bit dull. no real excitement in killing the enemies, after the few hundred, it becomes boring and repetitive.

I was thinking, even though the game is not really that modable, is there a way to increase the blood a little, im no sadistic, but i really want to feel the kill !

I know that divinity has it in him, because while in Dragon Mode, when you kill those dragons, they fall and explodes gruesomely, even though i know thats its own internal animation for that model only, but the blood splatter is a sight to behold. I'm a developer myself so i know how this things work.

Now whats the point of all this, I though since "Larin Studios" is the developer, maybe they can come up with some sort of Addon to increase the blood, I know that gibs are out of question, so I just want more grusome death kills, Insane blood splatter, or exploding bodies (figuratively - with no gibs, just the blood).

if you provide the tools i think the fans can take care of it as well, but if you cant . . . how about a small addon that does all that ?

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No,no,no, more gore and blood is NOT needed in this Game , or future games from Larian. If I want to see exploding boodies i will go play Fallout.

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No thanks. wink

The lack of blood in this game is actually refreshing. Its a clean game

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I wouldnt mind a choice. Honestly if its better than what Dragon Age looks like, it would be great.

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Originally Posted by Falelorn
I wouldnt mind a choice. Honestly if its better than what Dragon Age looks like, it would be great.

Ugh. Dragon Age requires constantly being licked clean by my dog since Thedas doesn't seem to have discovered advanced technologies like baths or soap yet. And heaven knows what he's been licking beforehand...


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Originally Posted by Vometia
Ugh. Dragon Age requires constantly being licked clean by my dog since Thedas doesn't seem to have discovered advanced technologies like baths or soap yet. And heaven knows what he's been licking beforehand...


But they do, it's magically placed at every load screen.

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wow, i never thought anyone would disagree, I mean come one ! I dont wanna feel like im playing a 12 year olds game, but none the less, I dont want it forced, but available as an option.

I mean just for making the game a bit more clear, nor a wooden stick walking around a small and limited maps. the only cool feature is the dragon shapeshifting, other aspects are already in many other RPG games, just thinking about it makes me wanna play less . . .

though you have to admit, dragon age was truly an amazing game . . . I cant understand what people have against blood, it has nothing to do with being a savage or a blood thirsty demon, but just some realism.

anyway this is just my opinion so no need to mock.




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I find the game and principal character too innocent to have blood and gore in it (but I loved it in AoC).

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If it were an option I would not use it. I do not feel a game needs to show a head being lopped off in order to be fun to play. I had not even noticed the lack of blood and gore anyway.

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What CoarseDragon said. If this is a must for somebody to fully enjoy the game then let's this be a option to easy turn on/off. div 2 is fun game without blood and brains splattering everywhere anyway.

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I have to say I also enjoy this game without the gore. IMHO its completely unnecessary. The game focuses on immersive player to computer interaction and story. In fact, the expansion has so little fighting that you'd be bored to death if all you were looking for is blood and gore. This game isn't a FPS mixed with a RPG. There's plenty of those and they offer far more gore because fighting is an integral part of the gameplay. To me that makes this game more casual and it allows you to focus on problem (puzzle) solving and story.

In fact the most successful MMORPG has no gore and that's where a complain should really be levied. After all you're either chatting with other players or fighting (grinding) 95% of the time. That's a case where you need some additional oomph to liven it up.

As for the option to put in gore. What would you rather have developers spend time doing: put in a gore option or additional content? You can't have both. Its not like they're bored sitting around looking for something to do.

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Originally Posted by candlebbq
I have to say I also enjoy this game without the gore. IMHO its completely unnecessary. The game focuses on immersive player to computer interaction and story. In fact, the expansion has so little fighting that you'd be bored to death if all you were looking for is blood and gore. This game isn't a FPS mixed with a RPG. There's plenty of those and they offer far more gore because fighting is an integral part of the gameplay. To me that makes this game more casual and it allows you to focus on problem (puzzle) solving and story.

In fact the most successful MMORPG has no gore and that's where a complain should really be levied. After all you're either chatting with other players or fighting (grinding) 95% of the time. That's a case where you need some additional oomph to liven it up.

As for the option to put in gore. What would you rather have developers spend time doing: put in a gore option or additional content? You can't have both. Its not like they're bored sitting around looking for something to do.


exactly. To me, too much blood and core take away from an otherwise great game. Take God of War for example, I love games about mythology, but God of War has so much blood and gore that the game is not enjoyable for me. Games don't need to be gruesome to be good.

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exactly. To me, too much blood and core take away from an otherwise great game. Take God of War for example, I love games about mythology, but God of War has so much blood and gore that the game is not enjoyable for me. Games don't need to be gruesome to be good.


lol. That's the first thing that popped into my head as well... God of War. You can't really blame the creators though. You get exactly what you pay for-- the title says it all.

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exactly. To me, too much blood and core take away from an otherwise great game. Take God of War for example, I love games about mythology, but God of War has so much blood and gore that the game is not enjoyable for me. Games don't need to be gruesome to be good.


lol. That's the first thing that popped into my head as well... God of War. You can't really blame the creators though. You get exactly what you pay for-- the title says it all.


I bought it anyways thinking that it wasn't as bad as I was being told. It was worse. LOL God of War is the gold standard for grotesque gameplay and blood.

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well, I was thinking, Divinity 2 is such an amazing game, but it lacks realistic blood and gore, the fact that there are no Gibs it makes the killing a bit dull. no real excitement in killing the enemies, after the few hundred, it becomes boring and repetitive.

Isn't it kinda obvious? More blood/gore/violence == higher age rating == less target auditory == less money.

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Originally Posted by Kein
Isn't it kinda obvious? More blood/gore/violence == higher age rating == less target auditory == less money.


That's certainly a good point; maybe add a /s

But I'd hate to think all creative decisions are business driven. Fortunately, I don't think that's the case you can still have "fun" death sequences without raising the age limit. The point... the game doesn't even ragdoll the enemies or have delayed corpse decay. I think we've discussed this before. My conclusion is isn't a purely technical limitation-- its just not important.

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I specifically said "No Gibs" and that means no flying heads, limbs or anything else. because is it NOT possible at all in the game. I just want mod or modability for the game so i can make it myself, and maybe share it with those who want it.

Originally Posted by Kein

Isn't it kinda obvious? More blood/gore/violence == higher age rating == less target auditory == less money.



Then you dont know of game marketing, 80% of Video game players are ABOVE 18 !! I know that cause I am part of a "game development team", and our marketer has shown me enough evidence on that matter to believe its authenticity. ask your self this! both witcher and dragon age had gore in them and yet both scored higher than divinity and had more copies sold !, heck! they even had sexual content, and adult language), so is the other way around.

you may not believe this but both games and cartoons were made for adults in the beginning, no one gave a rats ars about children, and frankly then dont even do now ! and in the end, if a game is made for either group (adult and children) in the end is the adult that has to buy it . . . so i guess what im trying to get at is that what you said is not at all true.


now back on the track, i just want the option available. no ? then let me make it ! there are plenty of Divinity 2 Nude mods out there (which by the way I hate nudity or sexual content in any game - thus those mods disgust me) so why there shouldn't be any blood mod ! the game is already defiled ! just give us the tools.




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now back on the track, i just want the option available. no ? then let me make it ! there are plenty of Divinity 2 Nude mods out there (which by the way I hate nudity or sexual content in any game - thus those mods disgust me) so why there shouldn't be any blood mod ! the game is already defiled ! just give us the tools.


LoL, how I LOVE this kind of reasoning.

"It's fine when there is lot of blood and gibs in our games/movies, but naked breasts? Penis?! NO! What will children think? It's A LOT better for them to look at someone cutting another person in many bloody pieces than to see something they probably have already seen on their body or in some kind of porn. YES WE IS ZMART."
Typical christian/muslim/jewish behaviour, hopefully such kind of reasoning will be extinct by the end of this century, just like these religions.

Besides, defiled? While I don't use nude mods myself,how does nudity defile a game? Nudity defiles nothing, when used appropriately. While I agree this kind of stuff in games is a bit pointless, as usually games with nudity suck, this changes nothing. Humans like nudity, pornography etc., so it will be modded in - it's modded to almost all games. Just like it should be! I never use them, but I approve. If seeing a naked man/woman with big sword gives someone a boner, then let them go forth. I don't care about it and nobody should. Don't ever let yourself be stopped by stupid and false religions children, because if they do stop your hand, then you are as worthless as their teachings.
It's not nudity, but pointless gore that defiles delicate games. In L4D2, blowing heads to pieces is ok-ish, but it's not a delicate game like D2.

Besides, FANS make nude mods, not the creators (unless the content was already in and they just unlocked it... But it's impossible, because if it was so, then we'd have at least one romantic option, and probably some media would complain about it, like they don't have anything better to do...!). If they can mod a nude model in, they could probably mod gore and more blood too. Go annoy them, not Larian, who'd have to waste some money on pointless bloodshed in this game.

1.Fans made nude mod.
2.It means some kind of modding IS possible.
3.Ask them how they did it.
4.Do whatever you want yourself!
5.???
6.Profit from completely unfitting bloodshed in a lighthearted game!

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Quoted for truth.

And.. nude mod?, for divinity ?? Some modders have too much free time. smile

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now back on the track, i just want the option available. no ? then let me make it ! there are plenty of Divinity 2 Nude mods out there (which by the way I hate nudity or sexual content in any game - thus those mods disgust me) so why there shouldn't be any blood mod ! the game is already defiled ! just give us the tools.


LoL, how I LOVE this kind of reasoning.

"It's fine when there is lot of blood and gibs in our games/movies, but naked breasts? Penis?! NO! What will children think? It's A LOT better for them to look at someone cutting another person in many bloody pieces than to see something they probably have already seen on their body or in some kind of porn. YES WE IS ZMART."
Typical christian/muslim/jewish behaviour, hopefully such kind of reasoning will be extinct by the end of this century, just like these religions.

Besides, defiled? While I don't use nude mods myself,how does nudity defile a game? Nudity defiles nothing, when used appropriately. While I agree this kind of stuff in games is a bit pointless, as usually games with nudity suck, this changes nothing. Humans like nudity, pornography etc., so it will be modded in - it's modded to almost all games. Just like it should be! I never use them, but I approve. If seeing a naked man/woman with big sword gives someone a boner, then let them go forth. I don't care about it and nobody should. Don't ever let yourself be stopped by stupid and false religions children, because if they do stop your hand, then you are as worthless as their teachings.
It's not nudity, but pointless gore that defiles delicate games. In L4D2, blowing heads to pieces is ok-ish, but it's not a delicate game like D2.

Besides, FANS make nude mods, not the creators (unless the content was already in and they just unlocked it... But it's impossible, because if it was so, then we'd have at least one romantic option, and probably some media would complain about it, like they don't have anything better to do...!). If they can mod a nude model in, they could probably mod gore and more blood too. Go annoy them, not Larian, who'd have to waste some money on pointless bloodshed in this game.

1.Fans made nude mod.
2.It means some kind of modding IS possible.
3.Ask them how they did it.
4.Do whatever you want yourself!
5.???
6.Profit from completely unfitting bloodshed in a lighthearted game!




ugh . . . here we go again, another know-it-all-muddler, i suggest some reading for next time you want to comment on something completely unrelated. are you so desperate that you want to express your scientifically-incorrect ideas in a mere game forum. you amuse me. anyway im not here to discuss religion or politics, so i wont stray off.

"Defiled" is a word "Ubisoft" uses for any of their games getting modded, if a game is modded is considered "breached" or "defiled", thus usually the DevTeam will release a tool to slightly overcome the hunger of fans . . .

Anyway, my point is, that the game itself already has LOADs of blood. like the Top Room of the phoenix inn where around 20 bodies are grusomely slaughtered with their blood all over the floor. or the concept of necromancy where you have to collect gibs to make you creature. so dont go telling me that this game has no blood or gore at all, nor that I-give-a-shit-about-the-children crap which was completely unrelated unrelated to the topic. I hope you dont represent an Atheist cause your reasoning brings them bad name . . . lets just pretend i didnt red your comment so I still can have a level of respect for atheist.

waste money ? do you even know anything of game development ? anything about the basic game marketing ? ow . . . wait !! i think i figured it out ! you are 12 ! that must be it ! you defend children (your age), your reasoning is 12, and you havent have the slightest idea of the very game you play. even if your not 12, you think like one, so i suggest next time if they asked you just tell them your 12 (even though your not)[saying it twice for emphasis]

now, i got tired of going over this topic. I think i now agree that this game is good as it is, implementing more blood and gore are not at all possible for the way they designed the game. adding more blood and gore is like adding a First-Person feature to Divinity. so I guess even if modding tools provided the answer will still be the same.

I guess now I get it, judging by the game itself (which has alot of static gore already - such as bloody bodies all over the game, or the bloody explosions when in dragon form). Larin truly wanted to add the blood and gore feature but they couldnt, thats why they decided to spice it up with those bloody bodies and rooms all over the game.

so . . . i think the problem is solved, even if they could, they wouldnt be able to. such as shame. but i guess the current level is good enough . . . now if this game was made with source engine, then we could have something interesting by our hands.





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