Larian Studios Forums Divinity II The Dragon Knight Saga / Flames of Vengeance (English) Divinity II - The Dragon Knight Saga Horrible trouble with platform jumping

This is my second time through, and I'm having an even worse time with the jumping than the first time.

I know how to jump; I've been doing it all through the game. But when I get to the platform jumping in the Maxos Temple, my character will not jump When I hit the jump key (space); she just falls off the ledge. This has been going on night 75 tries so far. It seems ridiculous, but I jst can't make jump key work when I'm trying to jump off a platform. It works fine on level ground or while runng; just not off the platforms.

Before I consign this game to the dustbin, can anyone offer any tips? Or is there a god mode or a cheat that will get me past this? I can't believe that I have to give up on an RPG because of Tomb-Raider-style jumping (though I never had trouble getting Lara to jump). That just doesn't seem reasonable.

I dont know how to fix your problem with the jump button, but there somethings I can do for you.

Full video walkthrough for ED from start to finish

Only because you are playing on PC can there be a god mode. This vid will help with every single one of your PC games... trust me.

Enjoy

Did you try remapping the jump key?

Can you jump at all on platforms? (ie when standing still, or moving but not close to an edge)

See the topic jumping in a D2:ED forum, which has a couple links to other possibly relevant topics.


Are you playing the retail PC version of the game using a no-DVD hack? IIRC one of the copy protection mechanisms that could be triggered if no DVD was detected was disabling jumping (though I would assume that would be all jumping, rather than in certain circumstances).

There's a god mode? Do you know how to unlock the developer cheats? They could be helpful for me for the purposes of taking screenshots.

Ive looked as best I could to see if anybody knew how to unlock the developer console, but to no avail. So yeah, only if youre on PC can you actually cheat.

When it comes to screenshots the only thing that I can think of besides Print Screen and hoping that it works, is to use a game recorder. I like FRAPS, really only because its the only one that records speaker and mic at the same time.

The developer cheats were removed before the game was released (see here). Something like CheatEngine can freeze your hitpoints or give unlimited potions or gold, but I don't think there is anything which (for Hagatha) would allow your character to jump or teleport beyond what can normally be done in the game, or (for Stabbey) could give more camera control or remove the main character / UI, etc.

The video for the pc trainers that I put up will give you:

For CheatHappens:

• Unlimited Health
• Unlimited Mana
• Add 10000 gold
• Add 1000 exp
• Add 10 ability points
• Add 10 spell points
• Add 10 dragon points

For GameCopyWorld:
They are all made by different people. So, some will have things that others dont, or have a different value.

And all you have to do with trainers is just hit the key that it says to hit to make what ever it does, happen.

As per Raze's suggestion of CheatEngine, yeah it can do what he sais it will, but you have to make those values in the game change yourself, narrow down the code possibilities that come up on CheatEngine in order to find the one that works. They can range from just a few to 100+. I have messed with CheatEngine before I found out about trainers, and it can be a little confusing at times if you dont know what youre trying to do. It does have built in tutorials, but those also may be a little confusing.

The last time someone was looking for a trainer, CheatEngine was the only program mentioned by name, that I recall. At the time I think there were a couple game-specific trainers that had not been updated to work with the latest patch (or at least the person posting the question said they tried a trainer they couldn't get to work).

Thats what I like about CheatHappens. Not long after a game comes out or is patched they have an up to date trainer for it. Ive been using CheatHappens and GameCopyWorld for a bit over 2 years and I have always had success with CheatHappens more often than GameCopyWorld. CheatHappens has always worked for me.

Since GameCopyWorld is made by individual "programers?" they arent always out as quickly, may be a lil buggy, and somethings might not work.

I'd definitely recommend CheatHappens - of course, you need to pay for membership to get their latest trainers, but as legionagel said they get them out really fast (it was <12 hours for the Dead Space 2 trainer).

And the main thing is that because they (mostly) write their own trainers, you can actually TRUST them. Trainers (by their very nature) behave like viruses, 'hijacking' the running game, so you generally have to bypass your security features in order to use them.

Personally I think that anyone who downloads and runs a trainer from an untrusted source is an idiot. Sure, most of them may be ok, but it only takes one trainer with a nasty payload to hijack your system.

I don't even trust the CheatHappens trainers that they didn't write themselves (e.g. the ones you can download for free without membership) - even though they're supposedly 'vetted'. I may be overly cautious in this respect, but I had a bad experience with one such trainer for Darksiders (which I was fortunately saved from by Norton file insight) - this experience was what propmpted me to pay the CheatHappens membership fee in the first place.

Edit: oh, and regarding the original topic - I found jumping was a problem until I realised I had to hit the 'jump' key before the directional key (by about half a second) to do a standing jump. After that, I had no problems.

Yeah you do have to pay for CheatHappens newer trainers, but its well worth it. Unlike every other site and having to pay $35/month, with CheatHappens its only $29.95 for a year and and about $55/$60 for a lifetime depending on whether they are doing their discount at the time.

A word of advice. Like Trippy said your anitvirus can/cannot pick it up. I can almost gaurantee that if you are using Nod32 or Malware Bites that its going to say it has a virus. This is no biggy. Though they are told to be the best antivirus because they pick things up that all others dont, thats only because the things they say that are viruses actually arent. They are known for false possitives.

Back to the topic at hand. If changing your jump key and/or jumping before the direction key, which I dont think is the issue because you said you can run and jump on the ground, contact support and see if they can figure out what the issue is. Once it is fixed please post in here to let others know what was done about it, if they happen to have the same problem.

BTW - I'm not trying to promote cheating, but as an adult gamer, I have limited gaming time and sometimes I just like to skip past the harder bits.

I think it's a shame that most recent PC games have no developer console - these used to be the lifeblood of PC gaming (in my youth I was an avid Doom/Quake modder). I understand the need for anti-cheat mechanisms in multiplayer online gaming, but surely for a single player game like DKS they didn't need to be so draconian about forcing everyone to play by their rules...

Thats what I like about trainers. With or without the developer console I can enjoy the story line of the game more without having to concentrate on drinking potions, healing, dodging, and blocking.

Personal I don't like any cheating because that blow away ALL the Fun etc I have .... playing a game !
I haven't the time to play much, but then again: I have more and much longer fun with one playthrough ! And it doensn't matter how long it takes ... although it requires more than 2 years, it doesn't matter

And I'm wondering how developers think about people use a cheating program with their game(s) ???
To me it seems a bit "pity" to use cheats knowing the devs put so many hours into the whole game and all the features like alchemy, the stats ... and than for example use a cheat so your hero's HP bar can't go down !! That seem to me really boring !!

To be clear: this is just MY opinion about cheating, no more or less

I agree to an extent - certainly playing a game on 'god' mode takes all the fun out of it - the only time I ever use god mode is when I've tried the same sequence again and again and I keep dying (and there's no option to go back and re-spec or improve my character). In that case, it's the constant dying that takes all the fun out of the game, and a minute or two on god mode makes the game fun again.

As for other cheats, I try never to cheat first play through. I certainly didn't need to cheat on DKS - I would have liked to cheat on that annoying final zeppelin escort mission, but unfortunately making myself invincible made no difference - and judging by the consensus on these forums, most players would have liked to cheat through that extremely annoying mission.

But if I'm playing a game for a second time, I don't want to have to re-search every nook and cranney, or re-do every side-quest, so I will usually boost my cash and stats as necessary to make up for the bits of the game I skipped. E.g. in my second play through Dead Space 2 I simply gave my character $1 million at the start, then bought all my equipment rather than searching through every box and secret area again.

It's definitely a personal choice, but one that should be left up to the players rather than the developers - I've given up on a number of games in the past because they just got too hard at a certain point (the final levels of Phychonauts springs to mind, although I did eventually finish that one without cheating - after about 50 tries...).

Wow. Thanks for all the responses. I did figure out what was wrong. It took me another 50-odd tries, but in the end it turned out to be a question of timing. On the ground and running, you hit the jump key while using the forward key. On the platform, I was hitting the forward key and then hitting the jump key. You have to hit them both at virtually the same time. I'm really glad i didn't have to cheat.

Just a quick idea for the future - this is probably only possible on the PC, but if you have a section you just can't get past, you might try seeing if someone one else is willing to download a copy of your save file, get you past the trouble spot, then re-save and send you the new save file.

Glad to hear you got past the problem in this case, but that's just a thought. There's another jumping puzzle I had the hardest time getting past, later in the game than where you are. It's in Orobas Fjords, in the cavern of Barnabas the Necromancer. You have to jump down a shaft with lava on the bottom, and a travelling platform you are, I guess supposed to land on. Man, it took me like 30 tries to get past that because I kept jumping *past* the platform you're supposed to land on (it's not that I'd miss it because it was travelling - no, I can get the timing right, the problem was that your character seems to have a minimum jump distance that is too far lol).

Wouldnt there be a problem for between Hagatha and who ever the save is sent to if they have different version of the game?

For that last jump in Barnabus' cave, rather than try to jump directly down to the platform, you can jump towards the wall to limit your vertical travel distance and drop down, rather than trying to adjust your direction in the air, or get the jump distance perfect. If you time it right you can also just walk off the second last platform to land on the moving one, IIRC.

Maybe for the next game, switching to casual mode will turn platforms into ramps.
More realistically, there could be alternate solutions to any required platform jumping, which would give less rewards or experience.


Welcome to the forum.



The game versions would need to be the same in order to transfer saves. I'm not sure how close you would need to get, though (maybe any patched English release would be fine for an English save; maybe there would be issues between retail and digital distributions, or something).

Raze - the way I ended up 'solving' the problem is that it's possible (a bit tricky, but seemingly less hard than the platform) to land on the force field device which is also at the bottom of the shaft. That is at a different angle, and much lower than the original platform, and it's a pretty easy jump from the device to the platform.

As for stepping off, that doesn't work - I tried it at least twice. If you just step off the top platform you start from, you will fall straight down, and just barely miss the platform, falling into the lava.

I had given some thought about doing a jump at a 45 degree angle towards the wall - I would have tried that next if I hadn't been able to land on the generator.