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#420166 - 08/26/10 10:06 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Raze]
Lancet Offline
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Well, as you'll see in a few minutes, I went with spoilers only for endgame stuff (as un-spoilery as they are, all things considered). I used the lists at the end of each section in my guide (the quick lists), but expanded on them a bit where necessary. The general format is the same as this guide, though.

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#420250 - 08/27/10 09:46 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Raze]
Highwind Offline
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Registered: 08/27/10
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Great job!this topic helps me a lot

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#420452 - 08/30/10 02:29 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Mephasm]
westpoint Offline
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Registered: 09/27/09
Posts: 45
Orobas Fjords, Red Hammer Tribe's Cave, Book on the bench behind the only door.

Where? I can only find that dragon skill book near Groth.

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#420471 - 08/30/10 07:53 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: westpoint]
Raze Offline


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As you enter heading towards Groth, there is an outcrop of rock on the right (visible from the door), with a bench in front of it (and a chest and venom stone vein on the right, as well), just before the path opens up to the main part of the room. Just after the rock outcrop there is another venom stone vein on the left. The bench there is where you will find the book.

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#420763 - 09/04/10 07:25 AM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Mephasm]
westpoint Offline
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3. Broken Valley, Citadel Dungeon, read Toshan's mind for 1 extra stat point.

I think, this Dungeon is that on the top of the Tower, with this skeleton? Where is this ghost then?

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#420764 - 09/04/10 08:33 AM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: westpoint]
Lancet Offline
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The Citadel Dungeon is the one at the base of the tower, near the Lake Shrine. You need to go into the top room (with the Skeleton) and get the Scrying Stone, then use it from your inventory. This will give you the chance to get the Toshan mindread.

Giving the stone to Romon without using it yourself will make Toshan's mindread unobtainable.

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#420814 - 09/05/10 12:32 AM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Mephasm]
Bam Offline
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Registered: 08/31/10
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I have a question is it worth spending the xp to mind read for 1 stat point?

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#420818 - 09/05/10 02:26 AM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Bam]
Raze Offline


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Yes, I think it is worth it, and I certainly wouldn't have made it another level higher by the end of the game had I avoided 10 mindreads (giving 12 stat points). While not as nice a reward as a skill point, you are still getting a quarter of the stat point level bonus for much less experience than it would take to reach the next level.

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#420828 - 09/05/10 10:09 AM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Lancet]
westpoint Offline
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Registered: 09/27/09
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 Originally Posted By: Lancet
The Citadel Dungeon is the one at the base of the tower, near the Lake Shrine. You need to go into the top room (with the Skeleton) and get the Scrying Stone, then use it from your inventory. This will give you the chance to get the Toshan mindread.

Giving the stone to Romon without using it yourself will make Toshan's mindread unobtainable.


Good to know. Maybe someone should edit the first post with that, cuz you can use this stone only in this room and not everybody use it.

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#420838 - 09/05/10 01:52 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: westpoint]
Raze Offline


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I believe you can use the scrying stone wherever you wish, as long as you do so before turning it over to the priest.

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#420952 - 09/07/10 04:55 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Raze]
westpoint Offline
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Registered: 09/27/09
Posts: 45
Ok

But i think, two mind reading ppl are missing.

Orobas Fjord

a) Laura (one of the grave robbers)
b) Sepp (next to the airship)

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#420957 - 09/07/10 06:09 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: westpoint]
Raze Offline


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Both of those give straight experience points, not stat or skill points. Mindreading Laura, without investing additional levels of that skill, costs 2400 experience and gives you 3200. Mindreading Sepp also costs 2400, but only gives you 1500 experience (need at least level 7 of Mindread to come out ahead).

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#421278 - 09/11/10 06:26 AM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Mephasm]
Bam Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Mephasm

4. Broken Valley, Citadel Dungeon, Hanging from a chain, Activate pedestals, then pick the book up it is in one of the corners close to where you started at.


Having a hard time finding that one.

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#421279 - 09/11/10 06:57 AM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Bam]
Raze Offline


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Posts: 21166
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Assuming the chains are still lowered (so you triggered the platforms in front of the hallway to the exit, jumped up and hit the button to lower the chains, but did not pick anything from the 4 nearby chains), head back to other end (where you started, if you used the scrying stone yourself). The skill book is on a chain in a corner, IIRC on the left behind a pillar/wall from where you lowered the chains, and out of a direct line of sight. You can see the skill book on the chain from that part of the room if you look up before it is lowered, but from the platforms there is little or no indication there is a fifth chain (don't recall if you can see a bit of chain, or not).

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#422179 - 10/04/10 04:14 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Raze]
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What about the book in your quest item list "The Demon Wars?" I'm sure it's a quest item or something, as I haven't replayed the game, but it gave me 5 skill points. I got it when I beat Kali, Hermosa's sister.
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#422184 - 10/04/10 06:39 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Wubby]
Raze Offline


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That is a quest item, if you choose Kenneth as your trainer (one of the reasons he is the poorer choice). Since you apparently picked Hermosa (or let them fight and went with the winner), you don't have to decide between completing the quest and reading the book yourself.


Welcome to the forum.

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#426977 - 11/16/10 07:12 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Raze]
Saristas Offline
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Registered: 11/16/10
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I'm gonna play and try and post the screenshots as I come across these.
Anyway.
Farglow: http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt54/...pg?t=1289934734

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#431574 - 12/12/10 10:54 PM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Raze]
Blackbird Offline
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Registered: 12/08/10
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Aren't number 14 and 17 the same book or are there 2 books in ragon's cave?

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#434250 - 01/05/11 08:15 AM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Mephasm]
conjurer Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
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Loc: Flevoland
with the quest " champion chaos or new order" from richard you can encounter a bug.
when you killed richard the game may freeze up!!!!!! it happend with my game (have installed patch!!!)
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#437781 - 02/03/11 08:43 AM Re: Skill Books/Stat Books/Dragon Skill Books Complete [Re: Mephasm]
Mephasm Offline
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Registered: 01/12/10
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Playing through game ones more found out that you get an extra stat point if you let David the deserter go at the black boar and do not report him to Richard, he then says he will head for the mountains. He is located on the path to Orobas Fjords and can then be mindreaded again for 1 extra stat point!

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Skill points quick list (46 total):
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1: Farglow, book on rock in goblin training area.
2: Broken Valley Village, book at end of the Boar's Head Pub book hunt.
3: Secret Passage, book on floor beyond locked door, past spider web.
4: Citadel Dungeon, one of the five items on chains to choose from.
5: Naberius' Storage, on a chair in the back of the room.
6: Outside Maxos Temple, mindread ZixZax.
7: Outside Maxos Temple, mindread ZixZax.
8: Sentinel Island, mindread Island after finishing "The Prophecy."
9: Read the Ancient Journal found during "Legend of the Ancient Mariner."
10: Read the Ancient Journal found during "Legend of the Ancient Mariner."
11: Sassan, mindread after acquiring the Battle Tower.
12: Mindread your Skill Trainer in the Battle Tower.
13: Mindread your Alchemist in the Battle Tower.
14: Mindread your Enchanter in the Battle Tower.
15: Mindread your Necromancer in the Battle Tower.
16: Orobas Fjords, mindread Lister. He dies after talking, so only one chance!
17: Sinister Cave, book in the chest near the Book of the Dead.
18: High Hall Mines, a book on the table in Mundus' second floor office.
19: Red Hammer Tribe cave, a book in Groth's room on a bench.
20: Book, awarded during Jonelath's first quest. Igor DOES NOT award this!
21: Book, awarded for Necromancer's first quest.
22: Book, awarded for Enchanter's first quest. See notes for Radcliff's!
23: Book, awarded for Barbatos' first quest. Allan's DOES NOT award this!
24: Book, awarded for Hermosa's first quest. Kenneth's DOES NOT award this!
25: Finish "Sight for Sore Eyes," and Simeon rewards this point.
26: Finish "Sight for Sore Eyes," and Simeon rewards this point.
27: Mindread Zandalor in Aleroth's ministry building.
28: Mindread Zandalor in Aleroth's ministry building.
29: Stone's Fortress Greenery, drop Black Rose and Moonshine into the spring.
30: Mindread Ba'al in the Broken Valley Mine.
31: Mindread Ba'al in the Broken Valley Mine.
32: Read the quest item The Demon Wars, dropped by Kali. (see notes!)
33: Read the quest item The Demon Wars, dropped by Kali. (see notes!)
34: Read the quest item The Demon Wars, dropped by Kali. (see notes!)
35: Read the quest item The Demon Wars, dropped by Kali. (see notes!)
36: Read the quest item The Demon Wars, dropped by Kali. (see notes!)
37: Book, awarded for Necromancer's second quest.
38: Book, awarded for Wesson's second quest. Radcliff DOES NOT award this!
39: Book, awarded for Alchemist's second quest.
40: Book, awarded for Trainer's second quest. See notes for Kenneth's!
41: Mindread Charon in the Hall of Echoes Arena.
42: Mindread Marius in the Hall of Echoes Arena.
43: Mindread Sassan in the Hall of Echoes Arena.
44: Mindread Amdusias in the Hall of Echoes Arena.
45: Mindread Ba'al in the Hall of Echoes Arena.
46: Book, found in Ygerna's Memory within the Hall of Echoes.

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Stat points quick list (21 free points, 10 pre-determined points, 31 total):
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1: Wooden Guard Tower, mindread Quincy (only chance!).
2: Jackson's Farm, mindread Lomax after killing Richard (only chance!)
3: Village Chapel, book on a table in Lord Arben's tomb.
4. Broken Valley, Rivellon, let David go at the Black boar inn, he says he will run for the mountains, mindread him after close to Orobas Fjords for and extra stat point.
5: Outside Bandit's Camp, mindread Christopher.
6: Bandit's Camp, mindread Tagos.
7: Broken Valley, mindread Jenae or Filip RIGHT after "Daylight Robbery."
8: Citadel Dungeon, use Scrying Stone and mindread Toshan (only chance!).
9: From a book in the Maxos Temple library (mindread the Librarian first).
10: From a book in the Maxos Temple library (mindread the Librarian first).
11: Mindread alive Sassan in Bandit's Barracks, then read Erlking's Writings.
12: Mindread alive Sassan in Bandit's Barracks, then read Erlking's Writings.
13: Mindread alive Sassan BEFORE activating the summoning circle.
14: Mindread Sassan AFTER the summoning ritual, but before following Razakel.
15: Champion Harbor Building, book on a table in Aurelius' room.
16: Mindread General Augustus in front of the ministry in Aleroth.
17: Drop Holy Basil and Oak Tears into Stone's Greenery spring. (see notes)
18: Drop Holy Basil and Oak Tears into Stone's Greenery spring. (see notes)
19: Drop Holy Basil and Oak Tears into Stone's Greenery spring. (see notes)
20: Drop Holy Basil and Oak Tears into Stone's Greenery spring. (see notes)
21: Drop Holy Basil and Oak Tears into Stone's Greenery spring. (see notes)
+1 to all 5 stats: Read "Book of the Dragon" in Maxos Temple (required).
+5 to Intelligence: Use the "Potion of Wisdom."

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Dragon skill points quick list (28 total):
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1: Given by Librarian for completing "A Tale of Two Tomes."
2: On a desk in the Primordial Cave's Chicken Rune room.
3: Found on your bed in the Battle Tower, post-Laiken.
4: On a table of the Skill Trainer platform of the Battle Tower.
5: On a table of the Alchemist platform of the Battle Tower.
6: On the ground in the center of the Enchanter platform of the Battle Tower.
7: On the central ring of the Necromancer platform of the Battle Tower.
8: In a wyvern nest a bit northwest of the Battle Tower Shrine.
9: In the Primordial Cave maze room, on the floor near a chest.
10: On a desk in Ragon's room of the Bandit Hideout.
11: On a table near Barnabus in the Sinister Cave.
12: In the High Hall Mines, a book near the central lava pit.
13: In the Well Cave, sitting on a desk in the southern room.
14: Red Hammer Tribe cave, sitting on the floor next to Groth.
15: In the Aleroth Ministry building, on a table in the treasure room.
16: Orobas Crypt, sitting on the ground near some candles in the back.
17: Orobas Crypt, inside the talking chest if all questions correct.
18: Lost Tomb, on the floor near the casket in the center.
19: Dropped by General Xanlosch in Stone's Flying Fortress.
20: In a large wooden chest in the Inner Passage of Stone's flying fortress.
21: Dropped by General Stone in Stone's Fortress Arena.
22: Dropped by General Raze in the Headquarters of his flying fortress.
23: Dropped by Rayhun in his Headquarters in Broken Valley.
24: Dropped by Kali in the Headquarters of her flying fortress.
25: Dropped by Keara in the Headquarters of her flying fortress.
26: Mindread the dragon Patriarch in the Primordial Cave.
27: Mindread the dragon Patriarch in the Primordial Cave.
28: Mindread the dragon Patriarch in the Primordial Cave.

Noticed some errors in my first post, so used the walkthrough one as base!

Thanks everyone!






Edited by Mephasm (02/03/11 08:46 AM)

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