#453731 - 02/29/12 11:26 AM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: AlrikFassbauer]
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... Now they call Divinity 2 "classical role-playing" : http://www.gamestar.de/_misc/images/original.cfm?pk=2276383(This is the front page of the new issu of the German gaming magazine called "Gamestar".) This means to me nothing but that "Action-RPGs" are now seen as "Classical RPGs" by the press ... *shudder* This is a definitive shift in viewing computer Role-Playing. Action = Classic. *shudders again*
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#453750 - 03/01/12 03:15 AM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: AlrikFassbauer]
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I know in the past there're already many discussions about "role playing" ... what's exactly IS role playing, etc etc ... In some way the Sims are role playing, but in 'simulator' game you play a father or uncle or you're the son of ... and play a role in a 'family' ... Looking at rpg games : The Elder Scrolls games are more role playing (you can buy your own house and make your own home base with furniture etc etc ... you can even marry !) I like that, it's nice this all can be in a rpg . Divinity II is another kind of rpg, for me more action, but in some way I turn the action down a little because I spend most time in trading, talking with NPC's, doing quests and if I've the opportunity to choose between fighting or solve the matter via persuading or another peaceful option, I choose that last one (mostly). And the Flames of Vengeance part is less action that the Ego Draconis part and I like that very much and hope Divinity III is a action rpg with LOTS of role play elements and TONS of humour  !!! But I agree with Alrik about that article (link) ... I my opion a action rpg is not the same as a classic rpg . But tehn again : WHAT exactly IS a classic rpg ? Who can describe that ? I appreciate it very much if a rpg gives the player many options to play the rpg like he/she wish to play ... so you, the gamer, find your own personal way to play your favorite rpg'(s ). What I like is also I can invest statpoints too, not only skillpoints. That's so bad in many casual rpg's like TES, Arcania, etc ... in Skyrim you can only put points in HP or MP, Oblivion was way worser on this and Arcania ... *shudders* .... But the trading I like in all Divnity games !! And playing as a Priest is fantastic, lovely, fun, ... and above all, if I really wish, I can just let my Creature, Summon Ghost or Summon Demon do the action work (battles) for me and wait & see how the enemies suffer while I use Hide in Shadows and if needed summon again an ally or Charm or Blind a victime ... use Fear or Curse ... so relaxed and fun to play ... Joram & Ronja the Priest-with-big-pleasure-all-times-long
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#453754 - 03/01/12 06:14 AM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: Joram]
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But tehn again : WHAT exactly IS a classic rpg ? Who can describe that ? My opinion is relatively simple : It depends on the generation. The gaming generation that began with gaming within the last 10 years have seen nothing but Action-RPGs. "Old school"-RPGs have become more and more rare. And to this younger generation, Action-RPGs indeed imho ARE "classics". They will feel disturbed if a game does NOT play like with the mechnics they have learned from Action-RPGs ! - Like that moron who destroed his own game by playing Drakensang 2 as an Action-RPG and then whining about it in the forums how BAD this game was !!! (Maxing out everything combat-related, determinded to hack & slash his way through the game ... At first I couldn't believe it !)
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#453758 - 03/01/12 07:31 AM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: AlrikFassbauer]
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Ancient Dragon
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So, in fact, a "classic rpg" is NOT any kind of rpg genre, but a name linked with the current generation of gamers and so we all know, games changes by time, generation after generation .
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#453759 - 03/01/12 07:43 AM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: Joram]
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This is more or less what I tend to believe, yes. And of course, there are "ageless classics" as well. Just works which have stood the "test of time". Like Mozart, for example.  Or the Iliad. 
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#453788 - 03/03/12 06:16 AM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: Elliot_Kane]
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7 special incidents in MMO history (2 pages) : Page 1 : http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-most-elaborate-dick-moves-in-online-gaming-history/#ixzz1nLcgFaUDPage 2 : http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-most-elaborate-dick-moves-in-online-gaming-history_p2/Page about Fansy The Famous : My favourite part from there : So the scary bad guys started to pray. [Sat Jul 07 23:39:31 2001] Kailkhan shouts, 'o well then what you gonna do? petition his queere ass ' [Sat Jul 07 09:32:58 2001] Alix shouts, 'dude everyone petition him this is harrashment' [Sat Jul 07 23:37:09 2001] Alix shouts, 'training is allowed, but dedicating a char just to training and nothing else isn't' [Sat Jul 07 14:18:55 2001] Albertino says out of character, 'u can be sure there will petition now several guys … i dont think u will be much longer on this server' [Sat Jul 07 14:17:29 2001] Abyss says out of character, 'if the whole zone petitions the GM's will get pissed' [Sat Jul 07 06:01:41 2001] Skratchen says out of character, 'well i dont petition much but ive done it on him,,hes using an exploit to do this ' [Sat Jul 07 06:02:57 2001] Ziggruk says out of character, 'i smell exploit' [Sat Jul 07 06:14:22 2001] Pudge says out of character, 'well , someone let a gm know bring it to there attention , could have over looked it' [Sat Jul 07 06:27:03 2001] Feran says out of character, 'report him' [Sat Jul 07 14:16:29 2001] Bawa says out of character, 'u want another petition' [Sat Jul 07 14:17:02 2001] Albertino says out of character, 'ok now ye get banned' [Sat Jul 07 14:24:16 2001] Vindolin says out of character, 'should i petition?' [Sat Jul 07 14:24:21 2001] Albertino says out of character, 'ya' [Sat Jul 07 14:24:49 2001] Ansalon says out of character, 'heis EXPLOITING the rule of no PvP under lvl 6' [Sat Jul 07 14:25:01 2001] Albertino says out of character, 'this is an exploit' [Sat Jul 07 14:27:43 2001] Zimzalabim says out of character, 'just petition and see what u get out of it…then we have result hehe' [Sat Jul 07 23:36:22 2001] Alix shouts, 'the gm told me that if fansy starts training people again to petition him because he has been warned' [Sun Jul 08 01:53:00 2001] Kordesh shouts, 'I don't care what I have to do. I don't care if I get banned in the process. I will e-mail, petition, and post untill that faggot is banned!' [Sun Jul 08 01:56:19 2001] Malkov shouts, 'i say we petition the GM's to power pansy to lvl 6 so we can all root him!' [Sun Jul 08 01:58:25 2001] Kirel shouts, 'this is what I am petitioning… " would you please make pansy L6 so that we can do something about his unfair advantage in PVP tactics?' [Sun Jul 08 04:00:30 2001] Ravenbane says out of character, 'petitioned for harrasment'
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#454926 - 04/25/12 08:27 AM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: AlrikFassbauer]
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Anyone interested in reading a series of DDO (D&D) Fan Fiction short stories ? http://moonbreaker.info/moon-breakerLooks good to me, and an "ebook" version seems to be available there, too.
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#455455 - 05/29/12 06:14 AM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: pall]
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I haven't seen this video yet, but read a escription of its thesis : It is very much like my heory that there can be a kind of addiction to adrenaline evoked by fast-paced video games. Philip Zimbardo holds a similar theory : http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/zimchallenge.htmlMeans that I'm not that crazy, after all, only so much far ahead with my thoughts that most people just can't understand me anymore. 
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#455696 - 06/05/12 01:22 PM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: AlrikFassbauer]
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Typed down from the printed British magazine "Retro Gamer" on the decline of flight sim games: 'Space combat games have declined in recent years, […]. David [Wessman] has a theory on why : "The particular skills required are of a higher order than the eye-hand co-ordination and fast reflexes of standard shooters. It also requires quick thinking and problem solving on a very high level of situational awareness. All of this is compounded by the fact that you are in 3D space in which you can move in any direction, and threats come from everywhere. It's a sad, true fact that many people have difficulty navigting a 3D space. Not many publishers are willing to risk the amount of money it takes to make a triple-A game when they know the majority of the public won't buy the game because they're incapable of playing it." '
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#456389 - 07/05/12 10:28 AM
Re: RPG Snippets
[Re: Demonic]
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The guy does have something of a point, but he tries to over-sell it AND he ignores the equal stereotyping of male characters, which is often just as bad if not worse in games.
Lara Croft specifically IS a very strong character. She happens to be attractive, sure, but the reason why no other female game character has ever over-taken her for recognition or popularity is about her character, her attitude. There are female characters who show far more skin than Lara ever has and whom most gamers have never even heard of. Everyone knows Lara. Also, far from being rescued, if there's any rescuing needs doing it'll be Lara doing it.
The problem is that game makers, broadly speaking, think in stereotypes. All male soldiers are steroid abusers, all scientists look completely mad... All female characters look like they stepped out of a Hollywood film, all sleek, glossy and with immaculate make up.
When have you ever seen a male protagonist in a video game who was not young, toned to within an inch of his life and attractive to women?
In short, the real problem in gaming is not female stereotyping, it's stereotyping full stop. SOME characters of both genders avoid that, but they are the exceptions, not the rule.
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