Larian Studios Forums Divinity - Original Sin Divinity - Original Sin - General Can we eventually get a list of late features?

During yesterday's livestream there were a few things mentioned that (combined) concerned me a bit:

- the implication that while save games would remain compatible post-launch, it was possible that some changes would only impact new games, not ones that were started before a particular patch.

- the implication that some planned features would probably not be in for launch, but instead finished and added to the game shortly after.

I'm not super excited by the possibility of getting stuck with a "feature-lite" or forever-bugged playthrough because I started my adventure on launch day rather than months later after sufficient updates have been released. Is there any chance that, prior to the launch date, you can provide players with a list of features that are not making it into the game by launch, but planned to be added soon after (and maybe even an ETA on when those additions will roll out, as I know you guys are planning some much needed vactions)?

I think that might help players make informed decisions about whether they want to start playing on the 30th, or wait a bit for a particular missing feature.

well they keep changing the release date over and over so odds are there is no late game content. They just set random dates so they could get our money on things like preorders or early release. What a joke I want a refund. Maybe I will buy the game again in 2015 when its actually released

I'm pretty sure it will be launching on the 30th. Like I said, I would just like a list of which specific features will be late, and an ETA if possible.

Maybe you should go watch the latest update?

I cannot confirm this, but I think that on the livestream, it was said that some of the companions would not be in for the release as they are still finishing them up. I think Raze also said that the AI personalities other than random also won't be in on launch.

I don't think I'm going to bother playing D:OS until they are in.




Would you stop spamming all the forums with this same butthurt whine?

Macman, I put down a whole heap of cash on kickstarter precisely so Larian COULD change the release date over and over. You know, releasing it when it's ready, as opposed to being rushed to market by publishers. I don't think that Larian have been mismanaging their time or funds and would be happy if it became possible for Larian to delay the game even further.

I missed the livestream. Was it recorded anywhere?

replay should be available any time now

twitch still just shows the showtime from yesterday, but it can't be watched.

http://www.twitch.tv/larianstudios/b/539683895

A lot of content outside of the early access portions. I don't recommend watching it in its entirety if you want to avoid spoilers. I mostly avoided everything outside the Q&A portions and editor discussions (just kept fast fast forwarding and not paying attention to what was happening unless Swen would switch screens to the editor or look towards another monitor to answer questions).

Thanks and thanks for the heads-up on spoilers.

At least, some views about the editor ...

agreed. plus i have some ideas for some new skills i want to use in the main story, so i need the editor first

I think Raze said the editor will not be out til after the game release. not sure if that means day 1 release or a bit after.. either way I mainly want the editor ^_^

I missed the livestream but now am a tad nervous. just how much stuff are we talking about here that is not being added on release now?

go to twitch, you can rewatch it .

and maybe stabbey (or whos is it that does it often) made a transcript..I swish i could but just no time, prepping for holiday

First I saw this. Are you saying the June 30th release will be incomplete and will need on-going patches to be complete? How is anyone supposed to seriously play the game knowing things are going to change. Is it still basically Beta when it's released? Sorry, just really confused about this.

Yeah that whole thing seems completely off. I remember Raze saying other auto personality types won't be in UNTIL launch but I doubt he ever said these things won't be in the game AT launch. And Larian were talking about the player created Henchmen from the KS backers not the actual companions that are relevant to the game and story.

I don't know what the state of the game will be on release. I can't confirm that it'll be incomplete, I did not watch the livestream for more than a few minutes, and even then it was only when the editor was up. So take my comments as hearsay.

I believe that Larian has no choice but to release it, for financial or logistics or contractual reasons, it is now too late to delay the game's release.

Well from the last vid it looks like the game is already boxed up and ready to drop in the mail. So the only things they could add at 'launch' would be a First Day Patch, which isn't that uncommon these days. In fact anything they are working on now (and it looked like they are still working) obviously isn't going to get into the boxes that are ready to ship. Day One Patch.

My concern is a mix of three statements that were brought up during the livestream.

- the implication that some planned features would probably not be in for launch, but instead finished and added to the game shortly after. For example, it was suggested not all companions would be available by release, and would be included in an update soon after.

- the implication that while save games would remain compatible post-launch, it was possible that some changes would only impact new games, not ones that were started before a particular patch. For instance, if an example of this happened to be the update that patches in the missing companions, that would mean people who started the game on June 30th (or any date prior to that patch) would never have those companions in their game. They would have to restart a new game to access them.

- the implication that the team would be going on a long (and much deserved vacation) after launch. During the livestream someone joked the question about the World Cup ("what would we get if Belgium won"), and Swen responded that by then it would be July 12th and he plans to be on vacation.

That's nearly two weeks after Divinity : OS is launching. Maybe he was joking, or maybe he was serious. For non-MMO games it is not at all uncommon for most development team members to go on vacation within days of a project launching and then (if you're lucky) come back and work on a patch after they return from their vacations. I have had games where the developers tweeted comments to fans during their vacation saying something akin to "had no idea there were problems, first I heard, will be back in the office in two weeks and sort it out".. so, yeah. The fact that this team is willing to update and patch the game at all is a blessing (some games just get abandoned post-launch) - the question is whether they're finishing up the missing features before they leave for their pre-planned vacations.

So, what we have here is launch that will be feature-lite with features that will be completed post-launch, with updates that in some cases will only apply to new games, not games-in-progress, and a development team that is going on a much needed vacation at some undisclosed point. Together (and without more information) it can cause some understandable concerns.

What we could really use is a list of features that are not making it into the game by launch, but planned to be added soon after, whether they will be compatible with current games or only new games, and an ETA on when those additions will roll out (since team members are going on vacation). I just want to know if I should start playing the game on the 30th or if I need to wait another month (or more) to be safe.