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#77161 - 06/24/03 06:45 PM Death
Lockmar Offline
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Registered: 03/13/03
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In some games, a player character who dies can be ressurected with a cost. Usually, this cost is a decrease in attributes....Maybe minus 1 in constitution, intelligence, strength, and agility, after a character comes back to life and/or a drop of one level in experience. It'd be interesting to see something like this in future versions of Divine Divinity. After all, if the character is truly the Divine One, the game shouldn't be over just because he/she has been killed by a monster or a deadly trap..
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#77162 - 06/24/03 06:55 PM Re: Death
LewsTherinKinslayer13 Offline
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Registered: 05/18/03
Posts: 8258
Loc: Seattle
yes, like a skill u can learn the makes it so if u die u can reserect ur self. but i woulsn't want to loose con, agil, strng, or intel, I'll just reload. i would like a decrease in gold.
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#77163 - 06/24/03 09:27 PM Re: Death
HandEFood Offline
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Registered: 03/27/03
Posts: 5016
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Perhaps you could spend skill points on extra lives?

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#77164 - 06/24/03 09:41 PM Re: Death
Johnson Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 1207
maybe there will be shrines...and/or monks that you have to use to rewssurect yourself...like if you die in a cave, you have to search the surroundings of that area as a ghost, and once you find a shrine or monk they revive you and your ghost gets sucked back to your body...but at a very very high cost...depending on level of character....like level 1-5 should cost 1k, 6-10 5k, 11-25 50k, 26-40 100k, and 41+ should be all your money or a skill point...like strength constitution, intelligence ect...

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#77165 - 06/24/03 09:45 PM Re: Death
LewsTherinKinslayer13 Offline
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not 41+ but 51+, and it should be like 50k.
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#77166 - 06/24/03 10:39 PM Re: Death
HandEFood Offline
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Registered: 03/27/03
Posts: 5016
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
How does the ghost carry gold? Can you get attacked spiritually while in ghost form? Maybe you could get into a secret area this way (and only this way), by floating to a shrine in an inaccessable area? I'd make it a attribute loss for resurection, say one point in each attribute.

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#77167 - 06/24/03 10:45 PM Re: Death
HandEFood Offline
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Registered: 03/27/03
Posts: 5016
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Who's seen the movie Fallen? It's about a psychopath on death row and the cop who put him there. After the psycopath was executed, his ghost flew out and into a guard. It controlled the guard until it could find another host. It kept trying to torment and kill the guy who put him in jail. The only way the ghost could die is if it ran out of breath. When it left a host, or the host died, the ghost had two minutes worth of breath to find another breathing host. If it didn't, it died.

Could this idea be used with the above? Come to think of it, I think they did that in Nomad Soul. Never really played it though.

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#77168 - 06/24/03 11:51 PM Re: Death
LewsTherinKinslayer13 Offline
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Loc: Seattle
yes, like u get 3 minutes too find a shrine. see what the cost is, fly back, get the gold, and go back.
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#77169 - 06/25/03 04:06 AM Re: Death
janggut Offline
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Registered: 06/10/03
Posts: 4357
Loc: malaysia
ghost doing errand? what about death = being sucked into some kind of dark side & demon knight half can do something evil like snatching someone's life force to resurrect the other half (divine one) or both dies. of course nobody's giving up their life force without a fight.
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#77170 - 06/25/03 04:39 AM Re: Death
Hunter Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 169
How about : Dead = dead. More realistic is impossible and I just don't like all the fancy ideas where you loose skillpoints or gold to start over again. If you are dead, reload (I wish it was possible in real life ).

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#77171 - 06/25/03 04:58 AM Re: Death
ZlotY Offline
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Registered: 05/28/03
Posts: 203
Loc: Poland
And what about:
When you're dead and want to came back to life, You must fight Your way from the other side and defeat demon who has Your soul to live again in Your world
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#77172 - 06/25/03 05:05 AM Re: Death
Tovi Offline
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Registered: 03/11/03
Posts: 579
Loc: Belgium
Quote:

And what about:
When you're dead and want to came back to life, You must fight Your way from the other side and defeat demon who has Your soul to live again in Your world




And if you die on the other side?

Oh, and what about experience? Do you get it on the other side? If yes, then it would make the game easy, since collecting experience is just a matter of dieing and getting to fight a bunch of monsters. If not, players will get angry, because they want experience.
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#77173 - 06/25/03 05:23 AM Re: Death
ZlotY Offline
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Registered: 05/28/03
Posts: 203
Loc: Poland
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And if you die on the other side?

Oh, and what about experience? Do you get it on the other side? If yes, then it would make the game easy, since collecting experience is just a matter of dieing and getting to fight a bunch of monsters. If not, players will get angry, because they want experience.




When You die on the otherside You'll start over 'till making Your way out

And if it comes to experience You will of course get it but only on the other side.When they kill U first time U will start there from lvl1. More time U get there its easier to come out beacuse U're gathering experience.The same thing to U're weapons and inventory.
It'll be somekind of parallel worlds.

More time, more fun
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#77174 - 06/25/03 06:27 AM Re: Death
Kejero Offline
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Registered: 03/10/03
Posts: 918
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Come to think of it, I think they did that in Nomad Soul. Never really played it though.



Yup, in The Nomad Soul your soul would be transferred to the first person that touches your body after you died (or you could use a spell to enter a new body while you were still alive). Great concept, but the game lacked a lot A finishing touch, for example
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#77175 - 06/25/03 10:01 AM Re: Death
Shyon Offline
Dragon


Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 1070
Loc: Brasil
I agree with Lockmar, because if you can ressurrect you don't need to stop the game to win a fight against many monsters and a superboss too.
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#77176 - 06/25/03 11:12 AM Re: Death
Johnson Offline
Knight


Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 1207
yeah you would, cause there wouldnt be shrines EVERYWHERE, maybe 5 shrines in da whole game....and 10 monks, but you can only find monks when you die....and you cannot speak to people, or touch things as you go along, and a time limit...

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#77177 - 06/25/03 11:24 AM Re: Death
Shyon Offline
Dragon


Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 1070
Loc: Brasil
Hey Johnson, what you prefer?

Real , Real, Time - time you have to find and have to think fast to survive


Or

Rel, Pause, Time - time you press "pause" and have all time to think how to escape.
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#77178 - 06/25/03 11:57 AM Re: Death
Rose Offline
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Registered: 06/10/03
Posts: 459
Loc: Chicago, city of mediocrity
Pause is good.
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#77179 - 06/25/03 01:39 PM Re: Death
Johnson Offline
Knight


Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 1207
well all games have the pause option....so i like the real time thing, thats more realistic. cause in real life you cant ask the person to halt and give you time for you to escape...

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#77180 - 06/25/03 01:42 PM Re: Death
Tovi Offline
Knight


Registered: 03/11/03
Posts: 579
Loc: Belgium
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maybe there will be shrines...and/or monks that you have to use to rewssurect yourself...like if you die in a cave, you have to search the surroundings of that area as a ghost, and once you find a shrine or monk they revive you and your ghost gets sucked back to your body...but at a very very high cost...depending on level of character....like level 1-5 should cost 1k, 6-10 5k, 11-25 50k, 26-40 100k, and 41+ should be all your money or a skill point...like strength constitution, intelligence ect...




Isn't this exactly how it's done in Ultima Online?
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